The BAGs (Bay Area Galoots) are not so much an organization as they are a group of woodworkers in the San Francisco Bay Area with an interest in the study and use of hand tools for performing common woodworking tasks. Generally speaking, they are subscribers to the oldtools mailing list, run from a computer located at Cornell University. One weekend when the oldtools listserver was engaged in a burst of non-activity, Paul Houtz proposed that we start our own list so we would all have something to read during oldtools outages. Over time, this list provided a forum for local events and other information useful to Galoots in the local area, but not necessarily of sufficient interest to post to the whole world.
The BAGs list is essentially a mailing list for the discussion of woodworking with hand-powered tools as it occurs in the San Francisco Bay Area. It was originally described as a "back channel" of the main oldtools list, and this is a good way to look at things. Thus, it makes sense to refer to the purpose of the original oldtools list at this point:
The purpose of this list is to provide an entertaining, not-quite-moderated, light-hearted, fun, jolly, happy, informative forum to discuss the history, usage, value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of traditional woodworking tools.
The BAGs list is a forum for discussing local gatherings, group purchases of tools or supplies, scheduling of local classes, answering questions that would be of interest to local woodworkers, etc. Some of the traffic on the list would be of interest to the main list as well, and cross posting is common. As such, common sense would lead one to conclude that the same rules essentially apply here as would apply on the main list. That is, postings should be on-topic (and that topic is primarily as stated above) and no disrespect of fellow list members is permitted. There is at present no "list mom" with the ability to kick people off for abusive behavior. Gary Lowell runs the listserver, Ken Greenberg maintains the FAQ. So far, the list has run quite well with no official person in charge. This is fine so long as no abuse arises.
Initially, there were a handful of us who kept private copies of the mailing list on our computers. This rapidly got out of hand, and Gary Lowell generously volunteered to host a listserver for us at SGI. My recollection is that the first use of the name BAGs was by Dave Hunkins, who lived in Watsonville before heading back East, and was an early member.
In March 1997 there were eight participants. These people (I would have to do some research to see who the other four who have not been named above were) are considered plankholders, an old Navy term referring to the initial crew on a ship. No special privileges, just people who have been on the list since the beginning and tend to be suitably opinionated as a result. The listserver was started in September of 1997. There were about two dozen members a year later.
We have a rather extended view of the Bay Area, and include Sacramento plus the coast as far north as Fort Bragg, mostly because it is of interest to galoots for various reasons.
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The traditional sources tend to be the same as most places - estate and garage sales, flea markets and swap meets, and tool dealers. We can't give you any advice on the first group, since they are very localized, not to mention seasonal. These days, the best place to find a large number of tools in one location is to attend a PAST event - see Organizations section for more information.
Many areas have flea markets (community colleges and old drive-in theaters are
popular). They vary greatly in the likelihood of finding anything, of course. Still, many
galoots have found the occasional treasure at some local flea market for next to nothing.
You only invest your time, and only you can say what that's worth.
Other flea markets that may be worth a visit (and there are undoubtedly many more):
de Anza College Flea Market (Cupertino, Stevens Creek Blvd at 85)
First Saturday of each month
Chabot College (Hayward, Hesperian Blvd. off 92 near I880)
Third Saturday of each month
Sebastapol Flea Market, on Highway 116 a few miles south of town
Saturday and Sunday
Alemany in SF.
Capitol Flea Market, Capitol Expressway and Snell in San Jose
Every weekend, drive-in theatre location
Alameda Flea Market
First Sunday of each month
There are many tool dealers in the area, although most deal with new tools. As you might expect from the strong Pacific Rim influence of the Bay Area, there are a number of dealers who specialize in Japanese woodworking tools. There are also a number of individuals who sell tools as a sideline; they are not listed here, but someone can probably tell you how to get hold of them. If there is sufficient demand, we can add these in the future.
In no particular order, here are some of the dealers. Please report any good new ones
find to the list for inclusion in future versions of the FAQ.
Hida Tools New Japanese tools
San Pablo Avenue at Gilman
Osamu Hiroyama taught the BAGs saw sharpening class in 1997 (at no charge).
Japan Woodworker (also called Woodline)
1731 Clement Avenue
Alameda, CA 94501
(Terry O'Donnell) There's a hardware store (across from Japantown, SF) where they stock lots of Japanese hand tools:
1698 Post Street
San Francisco, CA
Pete Neiderberger - Plane parts
Pete fills a unique niche in the tool world - he has parts for everything. If your plane is missing any obscure parts, odds are he has them in stock. He is known nationally for this, and we are lucky to have him in our own backyard.
Robert Larson Company, Inc.
3450 Third Street 3B
San Francisco, CA 94124
Tel: 1-800-356-2195 or 1-415-821-1021
Robert (who used to be on the oldtools list) is primarily an importer/distributor of tools. He does have a retail outlet with limited hours. You should check his web site for hours of operation. There are local outlets that carry most of his product line at the same prices - for instance, Southern Lumber in San Jose is a reseller for him.
Urban Ore sometimes have old tools and cast iron
Luthier's Mercantile International, Inc.
PO Box 774 412 Moore Lane
Healdsburg CA 95448-0774
707-433-1823 (technical questions)
8:30 through 5:00 Monday through Friday
intersection of 101 and 116
Misugi Designs Gallery and traditional cabinet hardware
The Berkeley gallery is now closed. However, Kayoko still sells Japanese woodworking tools, furniture hardware and shoji paper through her website www.misugidesigns.com
(Ken Greenberg) Southern Lumber in San Jose has the widest selection and the worst prices. If you need something obscure (they carry dozens of tropical hardwoods), you can get it here. It will cost you though, and it will be surfaced on all four sides. Everything gets run through the mill as it comes in the door - I've asked. On the plus side, they are a Robert Larson distributor and they have a nice museum upstairs. Web site: www.southernlumber.com
(Ken Greenberg) Aura Hardwoods (Phelan Avenue, San Jose) is about 1/4 mile down
Monterey Highway from Southern Lumber, and the prices are much better. The selection is
quite limited, though. They have a very wide selection of plywood, probably the best in
the area. Clearly, they cater to the cabinet trade, although they do have maybe a dozen
common hardwoods available.
Global Wood Source is reportedly a new operation started by former Northern Hardwoods employees. At this point, their status is somewhat unknown, although they do have a web site and contact information. 1575 Terminal Ave., San Jose 95112 (408) 392-0573.
(Matt Werner) Jackel Enterprises. They are now at 347 Locust Street in Watsonville, in a bigger, better organized warehouse. Still the best source for quality hardwoods and softwoods in Santa Cruz County. The new tel # is 831/768-3880.
There is a branch of Plywood and Lumber Supply (PALS) in San Jose, as well as Emeryville and San Francisco. Their web site provides maps to all locations.
Blair Glenn of Saratoga Tree Service in Campbell sells both hardwood and veneers. The latter business was taken over from Flamingo veneers, no longer in existence. http://www.saratogatreeservice.com
1620 Doolittle Drive
San Leandro, CA
EarthSource Forest Products (formerly ECO timber)
1020 Heinz Avenue
Berkeley, California 94710
510.549.WOOD (9663) main
510.547.WOOD (9663) fax
EcoTimber sold its hardwood lumber supply to EarthSource Forest Products in May 2001. This is a division of PALS (Plywood and Lumber Supply, Inc.). At this point, they should still be at the old location, although there are plans to move to Oakland in mid-2002. It would not hurt to check first. EcoTimber now only sells flooring.
Roger van Maren: Decent prices. Specializing in reclaimed & sustainably harvested lumber. Open from 8AM to 5PM Monday through Friday and 10AM to 3PM on Saturday.
Exotic Hardwoods and Veneers
4800 Coliseum Way
Oakland, CA 94601-5010
Roger van Maren: Primarily wholesale to the architectural trades but they will sell retail. Nice selection of exotics and more veneers than you've ever seen. Custom lay ups. Ever seen curly koa plywood? They stock it. Worth a visit just to look. They no longer have the loft and have moved to a new location. They will not sell less than a bundle of veneer, which is a significant amount.
Green Waste Recycle Yard
2550 Garden Tract Rd
Richmond CA 94801
Phone: (510) 527-8733
Bernie Lenhoff: Green Waste Recycle Yard is a division of Berkeley-based tree company, set up to divert our own tree work from going to landfill, as well as accept woody green waste from other companies or the public. We have a mill partner on our site (New Life Millworks, run by Paul Maheu who formerly ran Urban Tree Mill in Oakland). As you might expect, the great majority of logs we get come from the three dominant Bay Area urban tree species that often need removal (here are my rough estimates):
* Blue Gum Eucalyptus (@45%)
* Monterey Pine (@30%)
* Monterey Cypress (@15%)
The remaining 10% is a mix of the rest. The next most common:
* Deodar Cedar
* Red Elm
* Black Acacia
* Red Gum Eucalyptus
* Douglas Fir
* Incense Cedar
Of course, the rare occasional log of other species (such as maple, laurel, and locust).
From our point of view, the less we have to handle material, the better. The primary concern of our small staff is moving the 75% of pine and eucalyptus that is always coming in, and not on serving as a hardwood specialty supplier. Though we can mill, selling a log "as is" is preferable to us than having to process it in any way. At the present time, we don't carry milled inventory, though we will likely start some rough slabbing/stickering soon. In talking with various woodworkers who have visited our yard, it is unlikely in the foreseeable future that we could cost-effectively offer things like kiln-dried sealed turning blanks.
I look forward to getting some of our urban forest logs into your hands. Please feel free to call or email me with your questions and suggestions. Also, drop me a line with your interest in being added to our email list for specialty wood, and I will add you when I have it up and running. I'd be happy to host the Galoots out for a visit to our yard in Richmond sometime-probably best when there is a good break in the weather so we won't be trudging through a mudpit.
988 Howe Rd.
Roger van Maren: A cabinet shop that also sells wood. Not the best prices. They rent a
corner of their shop to a fellow who is a graduate of Krenov's. A real
Galoot, I can't remember his name but he spent an hour chatting with me
about benches and gave me some good input for my bench.
199 Mayhew Way
Walnut Creek, CA
Roger van Maren: Another cabinet shop that also sells hardwoods. Better prices than you're
local Home Depot but they can't beat the prices of the larger hardwood
retailers. Some exotics. The owner, Joan is a very nice gal who will go out
of her way to help you. (A non-galoot item: She will sell solid surface
counter top material so you can do your own fabrication)
Jon Westwery ???
930 Ashby Ave.
Berkeley, CA. 94710-2886
(510) 843 4390
Roger van Maren: No steals here but probably the largest hardwood outfit in the Bay Area. I understand they also have a store in SF.
305 Cutting Blvd.
Pt. Richmond, CA 94804
(510) 970-9980 or (800) 461-1969
Click here for Handloggers web site. The site is considerably improved from the first time this appeared here, and covers a number of species of hardwoods as well as flooring and decking. No on-line pricing as they probably would have to change it too often, although this is a nice feature that some lumber dealers provide. I stopped by here in early April 2003. The small building in front is just for flooring; lumber is in the back building beyond the railroad tracks. No softwoods. They always carry teak and marine plywood as their company history is related to the boat building trades. A good selection of exotics (Cocobolo, Goncalo Alves, Jatoba, Padouk, Wenge...), three kinds of mahogany, figured maple, quarter-sawn white oak (no QS red), the ususal cherry, walnut, poplar, etc. No beech is on their price list (sorry, planemakers) but no Ipe is on it either and I know they had some; best to call if you are looking for something specific. Take the Harbor Blvd. off-ramp from I580 to get there. I'm not sure whether this is North Bay or East Bay, but the water is to the south; I moved it here due to its area code. (Ken)
Plywood and Lumber Supply (PALS)
4050 Horton, Emeryville (branches in other locations)
510 547 7257
Don Stern: Good selection of hardwoods and hardwood ply, good prices
Oakland: White Brothers
510 261 1400
Don Stern: Great old mill with excellent selections of hardwoods and moldings. Good prices.
5700 Earhart Ct.
These guys are the primary source of interesting lumber in Sonoma County, as far as I can tell. Any time you ask anyone for something they don't have, they always send you here. A very good selection of wood, both softwood and hardwood including some imports like Jarrah from Australia. They carry both QS red oak and white oak, for example. Mostly oriented towards contractors and larger cabinet shops, they have free delivery locally on orders over $300. No credit cards, although they do take checks. You go through the office to the back, pick out what you want (very well organized), stack it on the warehouse side of the door, then get someone to come and price it; then you have to take it out through the warehouse, so you should park back there. They don't mind retail sales, in other words, but it's not their focus and they're not very walk-in oriented. But they're the ones with the stuff to sell, so that's where we shop. Much of what they sell is S2S with one straight edge. It's a bit hard to find this place the first time, so get good directions. Only open weekdays, and not open too late at that. (Ken)
3580 Westwind Bl.
Santa Rosa, CA
This is an interesting but strange sort of place that mills its own lumber, mostly from California wood. They list walnut, madrone, myrtle, maple and some other stuff, but it's known locally as the walnut place. They are in the gunstock business to some extent, and what they don't use or sell as dimensioned lumber gets thrown in a great big pile out back. We are talking "bigger than a two-story house" here. You can climb on it to your heart's content on the days that it's open, (Wednesday and Saturday for scrap) and they sell the scraps by the pickup load for about $55. Thus, many people heat their homes with walnut scraps since it is the cheapest source of BTUs around outside of your own wood lot. Makes the neighborhood smell nice, too. OK, they also sell lumber for woodworking purposes. This is probably where I would go first if I was looking at making something from walnut. However, their stock tends to be limited to 5/4 (gunstock size) and off-cuts less than four feet long. Out by the Santa Rosa airport. (Ken)
Some additional informal information: There are unconventional places to acquire wood up here. I was told by Calico that Safari West (an African theme park) has a wood business on the side if you are looking for big slabs of wood. There is a company here that manufactures rubber stamp blocks from Canadian hard maple that they buy by the train car load. Their customers can't deal with any wood with dark streaks in it, so they sell that off at fairly low prices. They are not in the lumber business, but several of the BAGs have acquired some wood from them when they needed to clean out some shop space.
San Francisco (and nearby):
Brisbane: Van Arsdale Harris is around Sierra Point. They seem to specialize in very large slabs of wood, some local. A place to get Port Orford cedar, Alaskan spruce, etc. in lengths up to 24 feet or so. Has probably been in business for 100 years.
595 Tunnel Ave
Brisbane, CA 94005
There is a branch of PALS here; see the San Jose entry for their web site.
John Quinn has noted that Hundley Hardware at 617 Bryant has a good selection of good cast hardware.
The BAGs themselves occasionally band together in small groups to hunt down wood bargains and haul them home to their grateful families. These are sometimes posted to the BAGs list, sometimes not. It helps to know everyone.
This recently came up, and a few people had helpful suggestions on what to do if a tree falls into your hands (other than get out of the way quickly). Transport is always an issue, of course.
Local galoot David Yager (email@example.com) has a a stout trailer, and access to a Woodmizer bandmill, capable of doing 30" wide X 14' long. He is located on the coast side, between Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz. He does not want to do this for a living but it's fun every now and again. He needs to get $100 per hour 'cause it costs $50 for the mill and something for a helper, too. Minimum length is 6'.
Roger Van Maren and Doug Horner had a walnut tree milled at The Woodsman in Stockton recently, resulting in lumber at a very low cost. Their web address is http://www.thewoodsman.net/, and they do custom milling and drying, as well as retail sales.
Jim Baker at Baker Milling and Hardwoods in Gilroy can mill up to 80 inch diameter trees into slabs, which he then ages and resells. He mills everything 12/4. You can buy wood from him, which saves you the trouble of aging it for five years yourself. See the web site at http://www.bakerhardwoods.com/
Bill Juhl recommended California Hardwoods in Auburn on Highway 49 off Interstate 80: "Dave Parmenter runs it and they specialize in salvaging city street trees and giving them new life. He'll custom saw it for you to whatever you want. Most other mills are generally reluctant to saw city street trees because of the potential for damage to their saws and people with imbedded hidden objects. Dave's mission in life is to deal with this. He uses a bandsaw mill and wastes much less than does chainsawing. You can find them at 530-888-8191. And by the way, you can buy nearly any variety of domestic hardwood from them at prices typically half of what you'd pay elsewhere."
In San Francisco, the Cable Car museum has been reported to have a number of displays of interest to galoots. This is a site that would be of interest to families, as well.
In San Jose, Southern Lumber has a tool museum upstairs. While it is somewhat oriented
to farming (this being an intensely agricultural area before it became Silicon Valley),
there are many old woodworking tools on display. Monterey Highway
and Alma Avenue, San Jose
Wilder Ranch state park on Highway 1 north of Santa Cruz was formerly a working ranch and has many old buildings, including belt driven (and water-powered) machinery. According to Bill Kasper, you can actually talk your way into the carpentry shop if you ask a docent. It is normally only open once a month when a volunteer makes toys using old tools. There seem to be lots of tools to look at, and a forge nearby which probably has its own tools. This is a large park, more than 4000 acres, and has many hiking trails and kid-friendly exhibits suitable for family outings. 831-429-2850 for information.
Empire Mine, close to Grass Valley. Some notes from recent visitor Dave Boreham:
There's a preserved carpenter's shop there, complete with very large bench, some wood planes, some molding planes, and a #12 Stanley scraper. Anyway, on a plaque near the head of the mine shaft (disused since the mid 1950's), there a notice which details how the men who discovered gold here dug the first 2000 ft of mine shaft using only _hand_tools_ !
David Erickson: The mine and workings are in an excellent state of preservation.
Carter Bros Railway
Hendy Iron Works
Folsom Dam (First Hydro Electric Generator on West Coast)
Hiller Aviation Museum
Replica Wright Biplane under construction using original techniques.
Ken Martin: Hardware Emporium on Taylor Rd. in Loomis, CA. It is a working hardware store but have 2-300 old tools easy, hanging from the ceiling. Also, Micke Grove park north of Lodi, CA is supposed to have an old tool collection.
Lots of neat stuff up around Fort Bragg:
The Liberon Folks
Collage of the Redwoods Gallery
While not strictly about woodworking tools, this small museum has what appears to be an interesting and well-organized collection of tools for various purposes. As of May 6, 2006, it belongs to the City of Oroville. 50 Mt. View Dr., Oroville, Ca. 95966 - Ph: 530-533-3096, approx. 25 miles N.E. of Marysville on Highway 70. www.boltsantiquetools.com
Main Street (South side of town)
Amazing things people have done with wood, many from students at the College of the Redwoods. Matt Werner had a beautiful music stand in the College of the Redwoods retrospective show in the Fall of 2001 at this location.
Fine Woodworking of Carmel
Gallery M in Half Moon Bay
Tercera in Los Gatos and Palo Alto
San Francisco Fine Woodworking Co-op store. The contact person is Dave Tucker, 172
Forest Side, SF, CA 94127,
PAST is a collection of people from all around the world (but centered in CA) who love old tools and history. Formed in CA in 1968, it encourages the study of the early trades and industries that made America. PAST discovers, identifies, preserves and exhibits tools, implements and mechanical devices which were used in early America. PAST meetings are held quarterly. At a tool meeting, you can meet people with similar interests, find tools to add to your collections and talk to a variety of experts about what you have at home. Seminars, demonstrations and tool collections on display are also featured at tool meetings. Members receive four issues of "Tooltalk" per year. Each issue is full of tool articles and information about what's going on in the world of tools. Web site with scheduled events at www.pasttools.org/
There always tool swaps associated with PAST events. There is a Spring meet held in Spreckels (near Salinas) and a Summer meet that used to be held in various locations - Sacramento, San Francisco area, etc but which seems to have settled in Sonoma. This is a great location since it is a historical town with many things to see and do both in town and in the surrounding Sonoma Valley wine country. There was a also Fall meet in 2000 in Sonoma, but it has not been held since. Check the web site.
Bay Area Woodworkers Association (BAWA) meets the third Thursday of every month. (650) 365-4093
NorCal South Bay Woodworkers meets the fourth Tueday of every month in Saratoga. (408) 245-0127
There are various sites that hold regularly scheduled classes, and there are special events. Some are posted to the BAGs list by someone on the mailing list for such things. There was a saw sharpening class for BAGs organized by Don Stern, and several classes on making spokeshaves with John Gunterman, hosted by Roger van Maren and David Thompson.
This section was generously provided by Terry O'Donnell [firstname.lastname@example.org]
Palo Alto Unified School District Adult School
50 Embarcadero Road, Palo Alto, CA 94301,
Woodworking: Beginning, Basic Cabinet Making, Intermediate/Advanced
Mountain View / Los Altos Adult Education
333 Moffett Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Woodworking class #201241, 201242 (2 sections)
Tues, Wed, 6:45-9:45
900 Fallon Street, Oakland, California 94607
Courses in cabinet and furniture making; Saturday classes in Japanese woodworking with Jay van Arsdale.
Other good classes offered by Keith Nason and John Lavine
Mission College (Community Education Division)
3000 Mission College Blvd
Santa Clara, CA 95054
Furniture Design and Construction
San Jose State University
One Washington Square
San Jos? California 95192-0001
DsIT 107 Furniture Design
(Part of a program in Interior Architecture Design)
San Jose City College
2100 Moorpark Avenue
San Jos? CA 95128-2798
CNSTR 109A-Basic Cabinet/Furniture Making Units: 3.0
CNSTR 109B-Advanced Cabinet/Furniture Making Units: 3.0
Mt. Diablo Adult Education
Pleasant Hill Education Center
3100 Oak Park Blvd.
Pleasant Hill, CA 94523
925-937-1530, Ext 3990 for information
925-937-1533 for faxes
The School of Classical Woodcarving
319 Dolan Avenue
Mill Valley, CA
Ian Agrell, Master Carver
(415) 381-9474; Fax: (415) 381-9475
1731 Clement St.
Alameda, CA 94501
Located in (but separately operated): Japan Woodworker, Alameda
Classes on hand and power tools.
Randall Museum, San Francisco
199 Museum Way, San Francisco, CA 94114
Telephone (415) 554-9600.
Night classes and short workshops in basic woodworking
6044 Dougherty Rd.
Dublin, CA 94568
Phone: (925) 875-9988
http://www.woodcraft.com (National headquarter's site)
UC Berkeley Education
* Furniture Design 12 evenings X408.6
2 units in architecture
(mostly lectures, discussion, field trips)
* Wood Furniture Design and Fabrication X408
3 units in architecture
15 evenings, Berkeley Campus
California College of Arts and Crafts
Extended Education, Summer /98
5212 Broadway, Oakland 94618
450 Irwin, San Francisco 94107
Full-time course in furniture making, plus short workshops and
Ext Education: (for course info): 510.594.3710
For Registration info: 594.3640
Jay Van Arsdale
3537 69th Ave.
Oakland, CA 94605
Japanese style woodworking: tools, joinery, and project-oriented classes. Currently teaching primarily at Laney College on Saturdays.
3450 Third St. #5E
San Francisco, CA 94110??
Tutorial woodworking classes on Fridays and Saturdays.
Fine Woodworking by Design
1020 Heinz Ave.
Berkeley, CA 94710
Classes offered in his shop, all day Saturday; limited to six
students. Open to any level of woodworker. $360 for 8 classes.
Ambrose Pollock, Furnituremaker
408.625.6554, fax: 408.625.0804
Woodworking workshops; 8 students max; in his studio in Carmel.
Michele Pollock at Ambrose Pollack, Cabinets and Furniture, PO Box 22705, Carmel, CA 93922
55 Bronte St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
(classes for Women)
ELSEWHERE IN CALIFORNIA
College of the Redwoods
Fine Woodworking Program
440 Alger Street
Fort Bragg, CA 95437
Phone: (707) 964-7056
Fax: (707) 964-6573
Year long course, plus short summer workshops
Masterpiece School of Furniture
541 S. Franklin Street
Fort Bragg, CA 95437
WEST COAST: SUMMER WORKSHOPS
Oregon College of Arts and Crafts
Full time program in Wood, plus short workshops in the summer.
Gary Rogowski's Northwest Woodworking Studio
Portland OR (503) 284-1644
Short workshops in the summer, in addition to regular classes during the rest of the year.
For additional possibilities, see: Woodworker West Magazine. They have an extensive listing of woodworking classes
throughout the West Coast. Their web site is: http://www.woodwest.com
Woodwork magazine also includes listings of classes, as well as local shows that may be of interest.
These are additional listings that were included in previous versions of the FAQ that do not seem to duplicate the above information.
Arques School Traditional Boatbuilding Classes
SF Maritime Museum Traditional Boatbuilding Classes
Hyde Stree Pier
The Pull of the Saw
3537 69th Ave.
Oakland, CA 94605
Jimmy Reina: There is a fellow named Keith Brandman who sublets from EcoTimber.
Keith has a furniture business and provides woodworking classes on fridays and saturdays.
I don't know how he does it, I had to give up teaching when I started my business. Keith
seems to be a decent guy and I think one could learn a lot from a real working
furnituremaker. Keith Brandman 1020 Heinz Ave. Berkeley, 94710, (510) 704-8545, DKBrand@Worldnet.att.net